tv Governors Terry Mc Auliffe and Brian Sandoval Deliver State of the States... CSPAN January 25, 2017 11:32am-12:37pm EST
welcome to the 2017 state of the states. i am scott patterson, director of the national governors association. have a few things to mention and then i will introduce our distinguished panel. the first thing, i want to introduce our new logo. we are very excited about it. the other thing i want to tell folks about, because i think it is critical to know, right after the election and as everybody knows we have been in a fairly multi-year period partisanship. the governors association went out and hold 1000 american voters. we used frank months of months ofbal partners -- muntz muntz global partners. we found some interesting things in this poll. distrust of many
politicians, americans trust their governor more than any other elected official. on most issues, americans trust states and governors to get a solution more than other levels. voters were more optimistic about their state's future than the country. nearly three out of four voters said that their state is doing a better job at delivering results than the federal government. these are pretty significant, interesting findings, and certainly more dramatic than we expected. that is why we are thinking about 2017 as the year of the governor. now, let me now introduce our distinguished panel to give us the state of the states today. it is my honor to introduce the chair and vice chair of the national governors association,
governor terry mcauliffe of virginia is our chair. he has made cyber security his signature initiative as chair of nga, to ensure states are protected from the many threats that can occur and cause various damage. the governor has brought 14 at half billion -- $14.5 billion in capital investment to virginia, more than any other governor in the state. he has brought bipartisan short test support for education -- bipartisan support for education initiatives. it is also my honor to introduce our vice chair, governor brian sandoval of nevada. having taken office when his state was in one of the worst economic conditions ever, he has now made nevada economic powerhouse with significant investments for major companies like tesla and amazon, to name a
few. under his leadership, the state has placed significant investments in education, and measures like high school graduation rates have gone way up. finally, i want to introduce the panel, the moderator of the panel. we are really, really pleased to brown, the editor of politico, is our moderator. she has done a stint in europe and was a white house correspondent. it is with great pleasure for me to welcome to the podium, our chair of nga, governor terry mcauliffe of virginia. [applause] :.vernor mcauliffe thank you for that kind introduction. i'd like to welcome you to the fifth annual state of the states address. serve asgreat honor to the 72nd governor of the great
commonwealth of virginia, and as chairman of the national governors association. joining me today is governor brian sandoval of the great state of nevada, who serves as our vice chair. he and i are also very good personal friends, and i would say as it relates to all the governors, we all get along very well. i want to thank you for your leadership. as you know, the national governors association is the voice of america's governors and their state on matters of national policy. today, we are here to discuss the agenda that will work to advance -- that we will work to advance that we have going on in washington, and how it will affect our states and the federal government for years to come. more important at this very unique time in our history, we are here to articulate the role that the governors are expected to play in our national discussion in years to,. our new price is it -- president
and congress face challenging issues. , wehey began their work have a simple message for president trump and the leaders of congress. governors, we are here, we are ready to work with you on an agenda that makes lives better for people with whom we serve. every day as you know, governors are on the front lines, turning policy into action. we balance budgets, held roads and rails, attract new businesses to our respective states. while partisanship grinds washington to a halt, we are democrats, republicans, and independents who every day work across party lines to get things done. of virginia we have consistently put partisanship aside over the past three years, to move our commonwealth forward on issues like education, workforce
development, and veterans services. i am particularly proud of the work we have done on transportation, advancing plans high-traffic corridor's like i-66 and i-95, in passing the first of its kind reform to make sure every tax dollar is spent easing congestion and growing our economy. if you talk to governor sandoval or any of the colleagues around the country, you will hear very similar stories of leaders working together to get things done. those examples stand in stark contrast to the ugly partisan gridlock that has paralyzed washington year after year. and so as president trump and leaders in congress begin their work, we do hope they will follow the example set by the governors by refusing to let partisan battles interfere with the important work that voters hired them to do in washington. as equally important for our
federal elected officials, to fully consider the impact of the impactns they make -- the decisions they make have on the state. and others have the opportunity to make -- to improve the quality of life for people in our state. sequestration is a great example where we can start this conversation. in virginia between 2011 in 2013, a cost virginia $9.8 billion directly and 154,000 jobs. we need to work together to put an end to sequestration and prevent further cuts from harming our local economies. i will say governor sandoval and i had a very good meeting this morning with speaker ryan on this topic, and i am encouraged. the president has indicated he would like to invest as much as
$1 trillion in our nation's infrastructure. every single governor in this nation has roads, bridges, wenels, and airports, and want to work together because we need to repair and replace them. along the way this will create or mend his and economic opportunities for everyone. we can work together to defend our critical data against cyber attacks the cost united states of america $300 million a year. in virginia alone last year, we saw 70 million attacks. that is a cyber attack every four seconds. act is another twortunity for federal -- balance the budget and invest in key economic infrastructure. we have seen what has happened to sears and macy's, as they are
closing stores because it is hard for them to compete with online retailers. speaking on behalf of the bipartisan governors representing the six chesapeake bay states, let me be very clear. we are unified in protecting this critical class that affects our economy, and everyone else who lives near the bay. as chairman of the chesapeake bay council, i am advocating on behalf of the six governors and the mayor of the district of columbia, that we continue to have commonsense policies to make sure we are continuing to protect, save, and restore our great chesapeake bay. these, and the rest of these incentives and initiatives that governor sandoval will talk about in a moment, our real opportunities to bring the pragmatic, bipartisan leadership that we practice in our states every day, to washington, and to get results for all of our citizens. that is certainly the approach
we hope decision makers will bring to their deliberations on the future of health care for our country. there has been no shortage of heated political rhetoric on this issue, but i do feel confident speaking of my colleagues when i say that repealing the affordable care act without offering an adequate replacement will have far-reaching consequences for our states and the people who live there. that is particularly true for those states who have expanded medicaid. in virginia, unfortunately, we have not expanded medicaid. but a repeal of the aca accompanied with a proposed grant, health-care entitlement could cost the state of virginia and the next budget over $300 million. and of course, that does not include the enormous impact that would befall the nearly 400,000 virginians who stand to lose access to life-saving care if proper steps are not taken.
governors are dealing with these issues each and every day. no matter which direction our congress heads, we will be the ones administering many of the policies that result from that discussion. and dealing with whatever fallout that may occur. so we are here in the spirit of friendship and common purpose, to make sure that policymakers hear our voices before they make decisions that could affect us and affect so many individuals in our state. their decisions will have profound impact on our states and the families that live there. before i turn it over to governor sandoval, i want to say congratulations and welcome, on behalf of the nation's governors, to president trump and our new congress. the challenges that we face together a great, but so is our capacity in america to meet them. the men and women of the national governors association are ready to work you on areas of common ground.
solutions to problems we have yet to solve. and yes, we will stand up respectfully if washington pursues the wrong course. in the end, i am confident we will all work together to leave our states in our nation better than we found it. now, and honor and my pleasure to introduce my friend and colleague, governor brian sandoval of the great state of nevada. [applause] sandoval: good morning, everyone. it is a great privilege to be here. to governor mcauliffe, i appreciate your remarks and particularly appreciate your leadership. i am looking forward to this year with you in terms of leading the national governors association into a new time. it is my privilege to delve deeper into some of the issues governor mcauliffe mentioned, outlining our priorities as
governors for the new president and congress. nga has been building a transition blueprint for president trump and congress the details issue by issue those most important to governors and states. we ask the federal government to partner with us to address those issues. president trump has outlined three priorities for his first 100 days in office. infrastructure, health care, and tax reform. ,o echo governor mcauliffe governors stand ready to engage with the new administration to produce a positive outcome on these and other issues, for all americans in our desk and our respected residents in respective states. governors make the following recommendations for those three priorities. , anotherfrastructure governor talked a little bit about that but i will talk a little more. governors no world-class infrastructure is necessary for a strong economy. every day, we champion ways to
fix, fund, and finance infrastructure needs in our state. we also know states cannot fully realize this work alone. that is why we worked -- purge the new administration to --port a commitment to bring urge the new administration to support a commitment to bring infrastructure to a stable. there is ongoing uncertainty of the funding instability of the highway trust fund. that causes states to think twice before modernizing infrastructure. as we all know, infrastructure is not just about roads. it is about water and energy. america's drinking water and wastewater must the protected and treated properly. governors will work with our federal partners on successful implementation of the water resources development act.
we also want to work with congress and the relevant agencies to strengthen our nation's energy infrastructure, including expanding and improving the electric power grid, and bringing broadband networks to underserved and often remote areas. second, health-care reform, which again the governor has talked about. health care often talks the list of issues that the american public cares most about. as the managers of medicaid for the people of our state, governors have a critical role to play in the future of american health care. no one is better equipped to understand and respond to the unique and complex need of our citizens then governors. that is why we are particularly enthusiastic about any proposed federal reforms that provide states with greater flexibility to develop innovative solutions needs.eet our residents' we also know that higher-quality care should not and does not
have to, at a higher cost. therefore, governors must play an important role in discussing health care policy to navigate the complex relationship between state and federal programs. thategislative changes to could affect the people of our state's. we ask the administration and all members of congress, to let us be your trusted partner. this is going to be very key in terms of collaboration, and a resource. we are the governors, we are closest to the people in our thee as you develop policies that will guide americans health care. last, tax reform. federal tax reform, though complex and multipronged, has a impact on states. to truly succeed, tax reform needs to be an intergovernmental effort. it is important to support public financing mechanisms
which play a central role for state and local governments to raise capital for a variety of public projects, including infrastructure. those pave the way to grow jobs, strengthen the economy, and maintain the united states' session as a global competitor. the new administration must maintain the current status for state and local income tax. the governor talked about online sales, and while i am on the subject of tax reform let me also bring up this opportunity to bring up this commonsense tax issue with broad, bipartisan support that has been on the congressional docket for decades. affirming the states ability to collect sales tax from online purchases, the time has come to put this long-standing issue at rest and pass legislation that allows states to collect revenue already owed but currently uncollectible.
three other things i wanted to chat about beyond the president's top three agenda items. governors ask congress and the administration to keep in mind as they implement change, education, something that is very close to my heart. last year congress passed a new ledges -- education law that restored state authority over k-12 education. states have looked to the classroom and local school boards to develop education systems that place students, not the federal government, at the center. it is critical that states continue to build on that progress and strengthen our nation's education system. governors again must be consulted as the new law is implanted. next, energy and the environment. consulted at to be the early stages of energy and environmental policy development, for state interest
to intersect with the federal government. working clobbered with our federal partners, states can continue to be -- working collaboratively with our federal --tners, states can continue incorporate these methods into national policy. third, public safety and the national guard. one of the most important roles as governor is to ensure the public safety and security of citizens and their property. in order to accomplish this central duty, states need flexibility and federal funding for state public safety efforts. the men and women of the armed forces -- god bless them all -- active duty, reserve, and national guard make sacrifices every day to protect our country and preserve our way of life. the national guard is the only military force a governor can call upon to respond to disasters and other emergencies.
the guard remains a cost-effective solution for sustaining military capabilities at home and abroad. therefore, it is important governors maintain maximum flexibility, and you have heard me use that word many times, do you national guard forces to conduct a range of missions. governor mcauliffe mentioned cyber security, and i truly appreciate him bringing this critical issue forward for all of us. the foundation of today's economy, national security and the daily operations of government are increasingly dependent upon the security and live -- reliability of digital infrastructure. in my own state, the great state of nevada, in my state of the state address i announced the creation of nevada's first cyber defense center. imitation is the greatest form of flattery, and we really borrowed upon governor
mcauliffe's great work in the state of virginia. like nevada, all states are moving quickly to stay ahead of the threats to our digital economy. in order to be successful in stopping threats, the federal government must view states as primary sources of intelligence, as well as primary recipients of intelligence from the federal government. states should be seen as full-fledged partners in gathering and disseminating evidence to fight against cyber terrorism. , andly, job creation governor, i am really proud of what you have accomplished for the great state of virginia. incredibly impressive. certainly job creation is the backbone of every governors agenda. to remain a top competitor globally, the united states must continue to create and maintain a sustainable pipeline of talent. governors brought workforce development and learning to the
forefront with proposals on apprenticeship and collaboration with congress, to create the workforce opportunity act. now we ask the administration not to stall that important work by preserving governors federal workforce reserve at 15% to ensure statewide. we also ask congress to incentivize and reward employers and job seekers who take advantage of work-based learning and apprenticeship opportunities . in closing, a strong partnership between states and the federal government will foster the sense of unity our nation is longing for. i think the governor talked about that. our nation is craving leadership and collaboration and working together in order to propel us as the 50 states, and our nation, forward. this is our moment to come , andher, protect our union
the general welfare of the citizens of these united states. ladies and gentlemen, it truly is a privilege to serve as the vice chair of the national governors association. i appreciate your attendance today. i know you come to many different places, in regard to the media and administration, and your respective interests. we truly do mean it when we talk about collaboration and flexibility and working together. i do believe the national governors association will be the go to entity, and all of us as the governors of this amazing country look forward to doing that. thank you, ladies and gentlemen. [applause] it that is my cue to take over. thank you, governor, for the remarks. what we are going to do now, we
have about 20 minutes to have a discussion and then we will open it up to some reporters. i was not going to start off on this note, but i think governor sandoval, your remarks, i think a lot of people are wondering andt the unity question president trump. if you could get into a room with president trump -- and i would be curious to know if either of you have yet -- there has been a lot of discussion about the transition and the positions he staked out during the transition, and whether he is doing enough to unify the country. what recommendations would you give to him as governors, you state your reputation on working with both parties, how can president trump -- should he be doing more? e: i havemcauliff
not had the opportunity to meet with the president. we all know he chose a governor as his vice president and i think that is a good template. very early on, i have complete confidence the president will reach out to the governor's and a good place to start is with the national governors association. andave a meeting next month i'm confident we will have the opportunity to meet with him at that time. one of the things i would like to convey to him as governor's, we are the individuals who are closest to the people of our specific states. , ando states are the same we have unique obligations and citizenry and what have you. i want to talk more about economic development and health care and education. i am absolutely optimistic about the opportunity to work with him and his administration. i want him to succeed, because if he is successful the nation will be successful. >> governor mcauliffe. want resident trump
to be successful because it is critical for our nation. you have to work together at a state level. i am concerned when they are talking about our medicaid expenses. that could be catastrophic for the state of virginia. i would learn -- lose $300 million. we want to be in the room for the discussion so that we can offer quality care. i guess i would say to him, let's stay focused on the big, broad issues. economic development, the trillion dollars of infrastructure spending. i do not really care about the -- of the i am concerned about this issue of 3 million to 5 million voters, illegal voters. it is just not true. when i'm concerned about, let's not use this to try to deny people their opportunity to vote
. let's not make it harder for people to vote. i have tried to meet in virginia. you are the president, he walked into the oval office every single day. put all of that stuff behind you. let's focus on the big issues and let's not play small ball on issues about crowd numbers and stuff like that. >> i was going to ask about the 3 million to 5 million because it was the topic of discussion. have you seen any evidence that there were 3 million to 5 million illegal votes? >> i can only speak to the state of nevada and i am not aware of anybody in our great state. in fact, i am really proud of the way our state handled its election. over and let's move on and let's get to the job of governing this country. we talked about his three priorities. gettinging forward to
into the specifics of those. is ant feel like it adversarial relationship right now. i'm the first one to stand in line in say. we need to move on. that's the bottom line. >> it may be worthy of the government's time, aca. speaker ryan this morning, as conversationm your on folks on the hill, do you have a friendship in the senate to do a repeal of obamacare at this point? there are a lot of movements the need to be made. repeal without an adequate replacement journey together, i mean, 400,000 virginians will risk losing health care.
we met with leader pelosi yesterday. we met with speaker ryan today. nobody is quite sure. it was clear from speaker ryan today that they want a block grant. he what the states you can do a better job administering it. the issue for us at state level is what is that fresh number? what you do about the non-expansion states? right now, we are an efficient state. i worry they you get $4.6 billion from the government and we match it, what will happen to us in virginia? our threshold, if you are a single woman with two children, you will be able -- if you make $30,000 a year. what is stock market goes down or we have a recession? will the state department be responsible for the increased costs. if you've been in an efficient state, you will be disadvantaged. the speaker was open to this today. we understand that is the issue.
what is the threshold number we will have to do with? but no one today has a picture of what replacement means. >> in the idea of block grants. >> let me first respond because you asked about both. it's premature to be counting votes. i'm not going to speculate about what's going to come. i've heard a lot of general language that has come up and nothing specific, as a mentioned in my remarks. i am an expansion state. i chose to expand medicaid and we have a state-run insurance exchange. it is working well for us. the governor talked about a lot of lives at stake, with regards to decisions made here. but i'm going to harken back to the fact that i hope decisions are made in a vacuum and there is a reach out to the governors because i can talk specifically about what we are doing in our state and was working well. everything can be improved.
the rhetoric i learned is that nobody is going to lose their coverage and prices are not going to increase. specific we get the details, i'm not going to have an adversarial relationship. once the specifics are giving -- are given, then we can talk. i gave some recommendations that also talks about the consequences depending on the decisions that are made. i think there is a great opportunity here. i took that letter as an effort at collaboration versus anything adversary. mcauliffe is not doing block grants. is that something you are concerned about? >> a block grant without knowing what the numbers going to be -- i will say this. i think every governor is very concerned. if you think locker grant is would you help your state and
get you more money, i just don't think at the end, that will be the result, at the end of the day. i think everybody understands nobody wants to throw anybody off their health care plan. they don't. but this is expensive. it's complex and it will take time. we just want to be able to work in figure that out. we care about all citizens. we want to give them great care and we would want to be efficient and make it cheaper. >> a similar answer. it depends. of not going to contradict myself. we want more flexibility and we will have more flex bill he with the block granting, but it depends on what the formulas are for that block granting. so if i get a fixed amount of money in my economy takes a dive in my state and suddenly more people become eligible for
the deltai don't have to cover them. so i want to make sure there is something within that that takes into account, for a fluctuation in the economy. infrastructure, i am old enough to remember when travel ready -- shovel ready became a term for president obama and that it became a very loaded word for president obama. when he was developing a stimulus, he asked for shovel ready projects. they turned out to not be so shovel ready. what lessons can we learned or have we learned from that stimulus? that we can apply to this round, this effort to inject money jobs,tructure, to create and you say, whether we have a
more positive view of the stimulus, that can be left up to folks to interpret. but as governors, what happened didn't work that we can apply now you are developing lists of projects out there, making sure that they can start moving quickly and not over many years because the impact is absolutely -- is obviously doled. >> many governors at the time, many were in financial states at the time. they had made the decision. a lot of governors used that money to balance the budget. a true trillion dollar infrastructure, we all need to prepare -- to repair our roads and bridges. in virginia, we lead the nation in public-public -- public-private ownership.
i just announced a great project .utside the beltway this is going to cost taxpayers $1 billion. we renegotiated the deal. not a money -- not a penny of taxpayer money will be used. all from the private sector. three free lanes, to express lanes in the middle. that is what we talk about what we want to do going forward. we do have projects ready. i purchased the s line from richmond to raleigh for high-speed rail. that was done from the grants from the federal government. but i used private sector money to turbocharge that into $1.4 billion. so as i said to speaker ryan, these projects were if the federal government is willing to put some money into the infrastructure. i'm optimistic.
we are ready to go. we have total capacity, which allows us to bring the private sector in. governor sandoval: just a few comments. i agree with governor mcauliffe in terms of budgets and the stimulus preceded my term as governor. but i had to fill -- i had to hole a way to fix the when i came on. that was devastating and hard to do. i don't think we should be doing sake of doinghe projects and repaving roads that don't need repaving. that is different. we don't have any toll roads. we don't want to have any toll roads. we are not going to have any toll roads ever, at least as long as i am here for the next three years. so we have a different formula. i really proud of our roads and bridges. they are in pretty good shape your but in terms of specifically responding to your
question, one of our big priorities in our state in which i think should be a national priority is building interstate , toohoenix and las vegas much of politic areas in the state that are not connected. we have begun construction of a small portion of that. we want to see interstate 11 go through nevada and continue north. we have a couple of industrial centers that we would like to be able to build some infrastructure. water is always an issue on the west, but provide adequate water so we've got some great companies that are moving nevada, tesla in northern nevada and hyperloop one in southern nevada. we'd like to see the industrial park continue to grow. part of that is having that infrastructure and the rail and water to be able to do that. i think those are two projects that would have immediate benefits that would improve the economy, not only from my state, but for the country. up to: i want to open it reporters in just a minute.
i was hoping for you to respond to some of the executive orders that we are expecting to see the wall. deal with i know you are not a border state, but what is your position on the idea of going out that wall, along the southern border. first andandoval: foremost, i would have to see the executive order. to my list of things, that is not the first one. we have a good immigration policy and we should continue to improve on that policy. that should be an issue that the congress and the president should take on. i've always believed in gaetz versus fences and having a good immigration policy. i just think there are the things we need to focus our time and energy on.
>> you mentioned stay and local taxes. would getting rid of the state and local taxes option hurt your bottom-line? what difference would it really make in your state? governor sandoval: when i was giving my remarks, when you come to nevada, we have no state income tax. [laughter] so there is nothing to write off. i wouldore of an issue probably just give to the governor here.
but in terms of the other states, that is very important. it's a hugeuliffe: driver of states economy that relies on it. it is an incentive to bring businesses in 10 it is an incentive for families to move to your stay. i think it fairy highly unlikely that the -- very highly unlikely that they would do anything about that in the reform of taxes. i don't see that happening. they always talk about the duct ability of municipal bonds. i think it would triple the market if you try to end that the duct ability -- that the deductability. if you take it away from the state and local level, you are crippling some of the municipalities. i don't think where we are today -- we now have seven years of sustained growth. that is a long time. we have to be very concerned
about what is going to happen next with our economy. i am a little concerned about our trade policy. did a state that last year $32.5 billion in trade. those tpp countries, 65% of my trade was done to those countries. i think we need to be very careful. i am for open markets. i am for competition. though we are a big trading state. 90% of the world customers live outside the united states of america. it a greater benefit to states with more high-income taxpayers? governor sandoval: what was that? states withnefit to more high-income taxpayers? i think itauliffe: is part of everyone's individual tax planning and where they want to put their businesses. it's part of your economic bucket to regroup businesses and
families. as part of your economic arsenal. >> i wanted to ask you your thoughts on how you went to punish sanctuary cities. governor sandoval: i don't know the specifics of that plan. certainly, i don't want to see anybody get punished. supportivet has been of daca and i have passed policies in nevada that have been beneficial to immigrants. universities, that has been an issue up there. universities will be sanctuary sites. again, it's one of those things here and i don't want to anticipate anything until i see the specifics of that. governor mcauliffe: we don't know what anybody is going to propose. at the end of the day, for every governor, if you want an open
and welcoming state, you want to treat people with dignity and respect. i also pushed legislation to deal with individuals, the dreamers and others, to make sure that everybody has an opportunity to the american grain. i go with governor sandoval. i want to know what our immigration policy is, building what could potentially be a $20 billion wall is not an immigration policy. it's not. it's the first couple of days, but i am concerned about the rhetoric that has come out. mexico is not paying for the wall. we are going to spend some estimate. today thatme out said it could be $20 billion. at the same time, you announced a federal freeze on federal workers. in the commonwealth of virginia, that is is concerning. bipartisan, democratic and republican members of congress in virginia have come out to condemn that. we have an aging workforce today in this country. we are trying to incentivize
young millennials to come work for the federal government. i had the same issue and i'm sure governor sandoval does with our stay. it's an aging workforce. you want to entice people to do public work in your state and your federal government. freezing the workforce, phasing the pay raises for the federal workforce, to me, is not the right step that the president should have taken in the first week of office. we have to incentivize people. we want them to come for the federal workforce. but the long-term effects of this could be very hurtful to the united states of america. and spending $20 billion on a wall at the same time you're freezing and taking incentives away from federal workers, i don't think is a good policy. governor sandoval: if i may follow up and perhaps this is in response to your question, but we have a large amount of aimlessly which learners in our state. as part of my budget, i made massive investments in that population and we have created what we call victory schools, which is extra money for those schools that have large populations of english language
learners. the undocumented to be eligible for our millennium scholarships, which allows them, when they graduate high school, to be able to attend in nevada university. i signed a bill that allowed for a daca individual to obtain a teaching license in the state of nevada. i think we are very receptive in respondthat has had to to a large amount of immigrants. i think we've done real well. carrie: here and then over there. you make your voice heard on international trade in this discussion of borders [indiscernible] governor mcauliffe: once again, the devil is in the details.
we will see what he proposes. we can't have a trade war. we cannot be protectionist in this country. i am big trading state. by sally lot of ad -- i sell a lot of ag products. our numbers are up dramatically. we just moved to second place in the east coast for largest exporters. 320,000 jobs in the commonwealth of virginia are directly related to trade. so i am just very concerned about how we are going to treat our trading partners, how we talk to our trading partners. listen, i supported tpp. i felt and i worked very closely with president obama, that it did the environmental protections. it had worker protections in it. it was really advanced forward on the digital economy and things we could do as a nation on that. and he gave us access to markets. and let's be clear. china i believe has already done deals or in the middle of doing gears with half of the 11 countries. the other half are lining up to do deals.
we can't sell our products to just americans. we have to sell in a global marketplace. greatest say i am the chicken salesman since frank purdue. i've been to china and i've been selling chicken parts. do.got a do what you got to that's i you sell. it's what you got to do. it is a global economy today. stopping companies and putting tariffs on -- all i'm saying is that we have to go at this very slowly, very carefully, and we do need to think this out. but there are ramifications to putting walls up as it relates to trade. i know as a state that does a lot of trading activity around the globe, i am constantly working to export and bring new markets in. . was in australia
i just went to korea and china. we are selling a lot of products. i am very concerned about it. we just need to tread on this very carefully. governor sandoval: i will respond briefly. i've been on several trade missions as well. but i haven't eaten any chicken legs are bugs. [laughter] , i suppose i am more of a pragmatist. it is what it is. the president has made his decision. he has signed his executive order. he is going to do unilateral negotiations with countries. i would imagine he he would begin with great britain. i think the prime minister is there at the retreat for the republicans where the president will be. see how it goes. as i said, we can speculate and think how good or bad is going to be, but he is the president and he's made his decision. he signed his executive order. and we will respond accordingly.
hopefully, we will have a voice in all of this in trade missions. i'm out there selling nevada and representing our anchor tenants in terms of her defense manufacturers and their mining industry and others. i do want that to be inhibited in any way. statet want to cause my or citizens of my state to lose any jobs. and if there is an impact, i want to be able to have an opportunity to convey that to the administration and let them know what the consequences of those decisions are. but until we know what the decisions are going to be, as i said, i'm not going to speculate on whether it is going to be good or bad. i'm talking about infrastructure. virginia is a leader in piii three. the admission came out yesterday or today and said no new grants
or contracts coming from dod until they decide otherwise. i wondered what your reaction is , and rp threes the way we are going? p3's the way we are going? governor sandoval: we are one week into the administration. i will be reading that executive order or whatever official action you described very carefully. but he also signed an executive forr yesterday that allowed expediting the environmental pieces of the project. i saw that is very good news in terms of federal review of projects to get them going. i know in my state, it will delay a project four to six years with regard to the environment will aspects the have to be conducted before a project can go forward.
juxtaposing those two, they seem to conflict with one another. but until i read them myself. i took the executive order that was signed yesterday is very positive. governor mcauliffe: i do think the way they are looking, going forward, is sort of ap three type model. there is no question about it. p3 type model. there is no question about it. it is not the panacea of all deals. when i became governor, i saw the first two deals ever done. we had a route for 60 where money had been spent on a road that not a shovel had gone in the ground and it was going to go over 400 acres of wetlands. and no to do that, which has never been permitted by the army corps of engineers, bent may be virginia was going to be the first, but to get that, you have to apply for a permit from the army corps of engineers. no permit had ever been applied for. and we spent $300 million.
i told companies very clearly i don't blame you. i did some renegotiating. the deal was done before i got there. i said we are going to do some renegotiating. in my very subtle way, i made it clear, if you did not renegotiate, you will never do business with the commonwealth of virginia again. and i got $340 million back. but p3, you have to be very careful. the way we do roads, remember, these are choices. so you have free roads. free am building a new road. you have an option if you want to do an express lane. this is a choice. so i being able to use private sector money to build your full new free -- everyone can still trouble for free in the commonwealth. but if you want to get an in -- get on an express lane, all of
that is being paid for by the private sector and it's clear that this is the way the federal -- give us a partnership deal and we will use your money and we will turbocharger with the private sector money and create not only new roads, but real capacity. in this nation, we have to do a lot more on rail. i don't have to tell anybody here in northern virginia it took me an hour to get in from mclean today to go to the capital. it's eight miles. we are doing the best you can. is why the silver line in so many of these new opportunities that we have, we've got to do a lot better job in transit capacity. the fast that was the first time the government had given states money in a long time, but they still did not raise the federal gas tax, which is hurting all the states. is it any chance you will see that change? $1 trillion has to come from somewhere. governor mcauliffe: yeah and i know there is is it and see on -- ias tax and everybody
the there is hesitancy on gas tax. i am proud of the alanna gateway. we will revolutionize in rail and freight and road construction and bridge construction and high-speed rail in virginia. we couldn't have done it without that money. and people got mad and said why did virginia get so much? and it's because we have good projects. if you have a good project, you can get a good partnership with the federal government. at the end it -- at the end of the day, they want to make sure that we are serving underserved communities and having a driving impact. i never want to argue on the gas tax. we can take that money and turbocharger with the private sector and get a much bigger bang for the buck. i got an increasing population. we are a .5 million people in northern virginia every day. million -- 8.5 million people in northern virginia everyday. governor sandoval: i would throw
in the highway trust fund and having certainty for that. we are in the midst of building the largest public warts -- public works project in nevada. if you been there -- [laughter] governor mcauliffe: how many people have been to vegas? [laughter] governor sandoval: it's hard for us to plan long-term on those projects because it is a four to five year project unless we had a kind of certainty. i can't commit to that not knowing two years out whether or not we are going to have the money. carrie: we may have time for one more question. >> a lot of people have been the proposed infrastructure spending that the new administration has been talking about and a lot of different people are hoping that their projects are going to fit into this definition of infrastructure.
updating the legacy i.t. systems and other additional projects will be included within this. what are your ideas on how flexible this definition of infrastructure is and how creative will people be able to get with getting funding for their projects under this infrastructure system? it's a broadliffe: definition of and for structure. i think every governor may look at infrastructure and the needs they have. we have a next national growth in northern virginia. we have the largest naval base in the road done in hampton roads opening up, dredging for our aircraft carriers and our nuclear subs in norfolk station is important. , what we needng done is of national security interest and it's important to the state of virginia. so a broad definition of whatever structure is. if it increases capacity for a , and theow especially
best interest of the united states of america. i would have a broad view. governor sandoval: i would agree with the governor. obviously, nevada is a little different than virginia in terms 86% federal land. we have some very wide-open spaces and i would like to see some broadband conductivity for rolled -- for rural residents in my state. that would be an important infrastructure project i would like to see happen. but i already talked about interstate 11. i talked about our industrial parks it we would like to see. we have the opportunity to bring some infrastructure to make them -- to use the term shovel ready, so we have more companies come to our state and they will be able to develop right away. forthere will be clear structure project between reno and spaghetti bowl that i would like to see get funded to improve the commute and the experience for the people who come there.
i've got aauliffe: space project. every state is unique. i think we can come up with a lot of good infrastructure. carrie: thank you so much to both of you, to the nga. i think that's my cue that my job is done right now. thank you for coming. thank you for your candid remarks. always fun to hear governor talk about the federal government. we always get a little bit of an unvarnished truth. so thank you. [applause] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017]